tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post1725796202567485187..comments2023-12-15T03:08:26.097-08:00Comments on THE CITIZEN ROSEBUD: No Man's Landcitizen rosebudhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12038740885720827086noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-79470241537040194432012-11-20T20:25:02.454-08:002012-11-20T20:25:02.454-08:00I realise I'm a million years late to the part...I realise I'm a million years late to the party, but I've just started a blog about fashion, with the intention of discussing how femme intersects with feminism in between reviews. <br />http://toolazyforlipstick.blogspot.com.au/ReluctantFemmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03764300825696007123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-81741620578984762282011-01-30T07:12:47.354-08:002011-01-30T07:12:47.354-08:00I blog about fashion through the feminist lens, al...I blog about fashion through the feminist lens, although it's not the only thing I blog about. Here's a post you might like: http://fishmonkey.blogspot.com/2010/08/performing-femininity-harpers-bazaar.htmlFish Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513113946225645783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-51575750701115811972011-01-27T11:19:19.362-08:002011-01-27T11:19:19.362-08:00Seriously LOVE this topic. Do you mind if I piggy...Seriously LOVE this topic. Do you mind if I piggy-back on it and do one of my own sometime this weekend? great food for thought. - KatyKThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13928951776385861803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-66369149291036603462011-01-26T19:59:37.421-08:002011-01-26T19:59:37.421-08:00Hey Bella, I don't really think we're taki...Hey Bella, I don't really think we're taking feminism for granted, but it's changed our world and now we live in that changed world for better or for worse.Heather Fonsecahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15518594383107751403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-37581816809650206472011-01-26T10:46:44.488-08:002011-01-26T10:46:44.488-08:00What an interesting question!! I consider myself a...What an interesting question!! I consider myself a feminist and I've never directly addressed that on my blog but I suppose it can't help but come through because of how strongly I feel about equality and women's rights.<br /><br />Also, my outfits are not presented to my readers through the lens of a man. I dress for myself and take my own photos. Like I said, I'm not really tackling heavy topics on my fashion blog but feel empowered to present fashion on my own terms on my own (post-natal, breastfeeding) body. <br /><br />I like that fashion blogs allow us to see other women's takes on style on bodies long ignored by the media. I think it's a step in the right direction!The Suburb Experimenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01758238506542199320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-37773976129929670322011-01-26T08:38:55.287-08:002011-01-26T08:38:55.287-08:00It's a very important question, as others have...It's a very important question, as others have said, and one that I have been pondering for a while. As someone who wholeheartedly and actively identifies as a feminist, I nevertheless find it difficult to introduce it into my blog without tipping its balance in some way. I also think there is more to being a 'feminist fashion blogger' than dressing for yourself; it'd be fantastic to find a forum to discuss this large topic further. Thanks for stirring this up!!Reddest Roarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01888389614407515461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-68953025924499959272011-01-25T16:46:23.281-08:002011-01-25T16:46:23.281-08:00woow
lovely style <33
xoxo*woow<br />lovely style <33<br /><br /><br />xoxo*Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08568616738595402496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-59547256976492852352011-01-24T22:45:13.109-08:002011-01-24T22:45:13.109-08:00Thank you Erika, on all counts.
And Femme, aka Ar...Thank you Erika, on all counts. <br />And Femme, aka Ari: thanks for getting the pot started!the Citizen Rosebudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15321719043114075007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-24252053022777843142011-01-24T22:04:19.993-08:002011-01-24T22:04:19.993-08:00WOW. So much food for thought! I'm definitely ...WOW. So much food for thought! I'm definitely on my way to check out the NY Times piece, but I wanted to respond very quickly, and hopefully, briefly:<br /><br />@CitizenRoseBud- Can't wait!<br /><br />@Terri- Good to hear! Hope to see you on feministifed soon :)<br /><br />@Nickie Frye - I feel bad that you have such a negative outlook towards feminism. Bluntly speaking, none of the feminists I know personally, and I know a lot, would ever deny you the power or importance of motherhood. <br /><br />I also think that any advancements that have been made for women in the workplace are because of the power of feminism. Granted, women still average about 67/68? cents to the man's dollar - but any strides that have been made for maternity/paternity leave, sexual harassment, etc. are because of the strong voices of women who spoke out. <br /><br />Where is feminism in reference to helping/standing up for mother's in the workplace? I would argue that feminism is in fact there, but that the patriarchal agenda running our society/the workplace by default, is simply more powerful. The patriarchal spin on feminism is "Look, they told you you could do it all, so do it" letting women shoulder all the responsibility, 'the second shift' so to speak.....which makes women resentful towards feminism - think about how different things would be if the reaction to mothers in the workplace would have been to balance out the workload at home between partners. All that happened was that women got more to do, right? Patriarchy WANTS you to blame it on feminism, instead of taking responsibility. (I realize there are many households that don't follow the stereotypical gender roles, but I am making a case for our society as a whole.) <br /><br />I hope this does not put you off of feminism even more, but that we can hopefully engage in more conversation. I would love to acknowledge any other issues you have with feminism. Maybe I'll see you around feministified sometime?feministifiedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17219673736457957459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-4751799792951336392011-01-24T20:59:07.350-08:002011-01-24T20:59:07.350-08:00I love this! I have a lot of feminist tendencies. ...I love this! I have a lot of feminist tendencies. I loath and despise the idea of women being placed in the background. I adore our intuition and good taste. And our ability to be master multi-taskers? Well, that's just one of many things. <br /><br />I am a fan of all the blogs you mentioned! And you look great in that blazer and pinstripes!<br /><br />:)<br />Erika<br />www.styleactivist.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-18102018942226997272011-01-24T18:51:39.339-08:002011-01-24T18:51:39.339-08:00Hmmm good food for thought Bella. It's funny b...Hmmm good food for thought Bella. It's funny because I think I've been a feminist from a young age. As I grew into my adolescence perhaps the way I dressed and acted didn't reflect those views because I was scared to carry around that label, but now I'm so over that. Like Leia and Vahni, I often wonder how you define a feminist in this day and age. I just think it's important that we make our own decisions, do what makes us happy and never set or accept limits. It's about being confident, being fearless and being ourselves no matter what! <br /><br />You look great Bella! xxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-1076837078040325022011-01-24T17:14:23.070-08:002011-01-24T17:14:23.070-08:00There is so much here to talk about!
@Nickie: you ...There is so much here to talk about!<br />@Nickie: you heard of the different waves of feminism? Well, it's up to us, to add to the dialogue of the secondwavers, the career and wear the pants generation. We need to add mom to the list and we should! Ultimate in women empowerment is being a kickass mother! <br /><br />@Vanessa: oh now we're talking. Or about to. As soon as I read the article. Thanks for sharing!the Citizen Rosebudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15321719043114075007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-91944644262510896122011-01-24T17:04:13.450-08:002011-01-24T17:04:13.450-08:00Not directly on point, but hitting in the same zon...Not directly on point, but hitting in the same zone is this review of a new book about politics and fashion.<br />Review at the New York Times T Magazine: http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/speak-softly-and-wear-big-shoulder-pads/?scp=1&sq=politics%20fashion&st=cse<br /><br />Fashion is deemed frivolous by many, yet the same people knowingly craft an image using, what? Clothing, fashion. Can you be frivolous and serious? Well-dressed and well-regarded? I, of course, argue yes. But, then there's all those dowdy First Lady hair-dos and gowns to argue the opposite side.Vanessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517833826056244744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-36742390240729655532011-01-24T16:11:51.385-08:002011-01-24T16:11:51.385-08:00Sorry, got so carried away with the rant that I fo...Sorry, got so carried away with the rant that I forgot to mention that I love the hat & stockings! :)Good Eyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06627409440479864140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-87210054746297128322011-01-24T16:10:38.091-08:002011-01-24T16:10:38.091-08:00The feminists led me astray! I grew up with the &...The feminists led me astray! I grew up with the "power woman" stuff & they neglected to tell me one very important thing about being a woman- that some day I'd be a mom & it would be the most important job I would ever be called to do. There are some important points to the feminist movement, but they missed a major point for me. Major. I was blindsided when suddenly the career they all told me was so critical was actually the least important thing to me. And where are they in the workplace, standing up for us moms? Pfft! Take it from me, it's not all it's cracked up to be.Good Eyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06627409440479864140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-13045555256239835732011-01-24T15:04:49.426-08:002011-01-24T15:04:49.426-08:00First, I love your hat. I have added feministifie...First, I love your hat. I have added feministified to my blog to read.<br /><br />I come across elements of feminism in many blogs that I read. I wonder if somehow it doesn't give out as a topic too quickly. In fact, I can only think of a handful of blogs I read (I'm older) that cater at all to 'how something looks to a guy'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-43152803291571694382011-01-24T13:59:15.205-08:002011-01-24T13:59:15.205-08:00Ha ha, Ari, you are a good influence on me! You kn...Ha ha, Ari, you are a good influence on me! You know a collab between us and our blogs is something that I've had in mind. Looking forward to some interesting new conversations.the Citizen Rosebudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15321719043114075007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-15563057045121806192011-01-24T12:52:50.494-08:002011-01-24T12:52:50.494-08:00Bella, first and foremost, thank you for not only ...Bella, first and foremost, thank you for not only introducing me to your readers but for allowing my feminist rhetoric to infiltrate your blog!<br /><br />It's such a great conversation, I can't believe we hadn't approached it before. After reading through the links you provided and the insightful comments, I feel like I have more questions than I do answers.<br /> <br />Which means you're on to something. Which means I will probably be blogging about it. ;)feministifiedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17219673736457957459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-45647900159138516892011-01-24T12:08:08.513-08:002011-01-24T12:08:08.513-08:00I can't say that I know of any feminism focuse...I can't say that I know of any feminism focused fashion bloggers myself. Something to ponder...LOVE the stripes!BonBon Rose Girls Kristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699626979106427874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-23376919745146921812011-01-24T12:02:26.846-08:002011-01-24T12:02:26.846-08:00I'll take a look at some of those blogs. And I...I'll take a look at some of those blogs. And I love how the quote at the top references your outfit - you have such a unique take on things. My favourite detail is the cameo brooch. <br />I was just re-reading your comment on my books debate. I can't imagine owning as much music as your friend! I only have about 1.7 days worth of music on my ipod. I find the digital vs. record debate a little tricky when it relates to music - as I love the experience of listening to records, but then sometimes I am tempted to buy the same albums in digital form so I can listen to them in the car and other places where it's pretty impossible to have a record player!<br /><br />http://clothescamerasandcoffee.blogspot.com/Rosalindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11916652711513095607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-17962259921307709452011-01-24T11:52:01.738-08:002011-01-24T11:52:01.738-08:00I would like to see more feminist fashion bloggers...I would like to see more feminist fashion bloggers. I really liked the man repeller site. I don't really label myself, I am very strong woman. I work a job men normally do, my boyfriend does all the cooking, I "bring home the bacon", and I generally don't care about gender roles. The funny thing is I was brought up in a very traditional catholic family, my grandfather is a deacon.<br /><a href="http://myheartblogged.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> My Heart Blogged</a>My Heart Bloggedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14617255167793325639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-5173793249137766892011-01-24T11:40:37.654-08:002011-01-24T11:40:37.654-08:00It makes sense to me, Heather, but I wonder: are w...It makes sense to me, Heather, but I wonder: are we taking the strides made in the first, second and third wave for granted?the Citizen Rosebudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15321719043114075007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-31240210622477070172011-01-24T11:39:14.440-08:002011-01-24T11:39:14.440-08:00I'd really like to start up some thoughtful co...I'd really like to start up some thoughtful conversation about this. Because I was VERY surprise to not find a one blog that focuses on fashion with a feminist slant. Because like Leia, and V, among others, many member of MY blogger community are strong, very strong women, and could/would qualify as feminists, or holding to feminist ideals: equal rights, women's empowerment, etc. <br /><br />But where are the bloggers that center around this theme? Is there a 4th wave (of feminism) on its way? And what does she have to say about fashion?the Citizen Rosebudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15321719043114075007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-72536484894954507522011-01-24T11:21:58.889-08:002011-01-24T11:21:58.889-08:00Love your look Bella! I've never really been ...Love your look Bella! I've never really been comfortable wearing men's clothing, even cute and mixed with sexy shorts and high stockings the way you have it. It's certainly a look I've always really appreciated.<br /><br />I don't know who's blogging about fashion from a feminist's perspective, but I hope, really, that just by being our female selves, writing about fashion from our own perspective, that we are taking the feminist legacy from the 1960's and 70's and turning it into something new and modern. I don't know if that makes any sense!<br /><br />Love,<br />Heather <br />http://heathersdesignblog.com/Heather Fonsecahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15518594383107751403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306737686495027327.post-31055258408010542262011-01-24T11:17:38.920-08:002011-01-24T11:17:38.920-08:00I've never really thought about that before bu...I've never really thought about that before but its so true there are very few feminist blogs. what an insightful post :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17835507886052696045noreply@blogger.com